Sylvia vs. CroCop. Lets see who gets knocked out in this fight. Let me think…um…. Sylvia. You suck Tim!!!

wow…the point is that he wasnt responsible for any of those matches. until he beats one of those pride fighters, he should just keep his mouth shut!

I want Tim to face Nog. Let him back up his talk there. He’s a funny guy to draw joy from other people’s victories.

being a hardcor timmy hater i think he needs to stop putting himself in the spotlight by talking shit on people who are better than him. dising cro cop like that is a big mistake. he cant talk shit unless he wins a fight against a big name. give him fabricio werdum and if he wins that, then he can talk. i wonder how much he charged for this interview

tims not really talking bad about pride guys, hes more talking about how ufc guys were always underated which is true…as much shit as sylvia gets, i dont believe hes afraid to fight anyone, and i think he is talented and will be a threat most hws…i could see cc vs sylvia being a good fight…i dont know if cc can knock sylvia out with a high kick, he knock aleks out with one, hes 6-6 tim is 6-9, so i dont know…the key for cc would be leg kicks on tims skinny legs, but cc would have to watch out for tims big right hand every kick, so i could see that fight going either way honestly…..ground guys like couture and fedor will pose a problem for tim, maybe nog via arm bar like mir, but i dont know if nog could take him down….weird

although im not a huge fan of tim he does make a good point. also have a man crush on nick diaz so even more power to him. i cant wait for AA to KO cro cop then leg lock fedor.

gonzaga beat cro cop
chuck vs shogun would be a great fight
hendo would beat up silva
diaz choked the hell out of diaz (sakurai is still the toughest lightweight

i give the ufc a slight edge
cant wait to see if they have a superbowl to get it all figured out

Not much of a Timmy fan either, but he does have a point. Herring was brought in to challege for the title and gets beaten by a one-dimensional wrestler brought in as a sacrifical lamb. Then, the title was Cro Cop’s for the taking and he gets KO’d by a guy nobody thought was a contender. Werdum couldn’t get past Arlovski. Gomi’s taken out by Nick “Cheech Marin” Diaz. In fact, the only recent ex-PRIDE fighter who’s made a good showing for himself is Anderson Silva. You can’t blame Timmy for weighing in on the long-held debate of “Who’s better? Pride or UFC?” The rest of us keyboard warriors have been doing it for years, but we’ve never volunteered to fight anybody in order to prove our point. He has a right to gloat a little since he was the champion of a division that was Exhibit Number 1 in the argument for why the UFC sucked. Now, ex-PRIDE fighters are 2-3 in that supposedly lousy UFC Heavyweight Division. He’s sticking up for the guys in his division and his organization. I can’t bitch and moan about that. Now can Timmy actually beat any of those guys? We’ll see.

yeah seirously. until tim fights a pride heavyweight, he shouldent say anything. i mean me personally.. thought the pride fighters were more stacked then UFC, but not saying they are all better. idk i just like pride for some reason. the scoreing system and the ring. with the 3402352347647 japensese people in the crowd. it made pride look like an amazing spectacle

Sylvia might be on to something here, but if he was put against any Pride fighter he would get beat down.

what a douche

[quote comment=”55355″]tims not really talking bad about pride guys, hes more talking about how ufc guys were always underated which is true…as much shit as sylvia gets, i dont believe hes afraid to fight anyone, and i think he is talented and will be a threat most hws…i could see cc vs sylvia being a good fight…i dont know if cc can knock sylvia out with a high kick, he knock aleks out with one, hes 6-6 tim is 6-9, so i dont know…the key for cc would be leg kicks on tims skinny legs, but cc would have to watch out for tims big right hand every kick, so i could see that fight going either way honestly…..ground guys like couture and fedor will pose a problem for tim, maybe nog via arm bar like mir, but i dont know if nog could take him down….weird[/quote]
let the debates begin! i agree with what your saying that the ufc fighters are underated by the hardcore fans. right now it seems that the ufc does hold an advantage in this debate. eventually some of prides top guys are gonna beat some of ufc’s top guys and then vice-versa. i dont see one orgs fighters totally dominating the others except maybee in the lower wieght classes were the ufc seems to have a distinct advantage at ww. iam still a little confused on what to call the current, former, soon to be ufc,pride fighters? i still think in the future they will all just be ufc fighters.

First good comment by Tim Sylvia in a long time.
I like it, i like it a lot.

Read the whole interview, it’s pretty good. I actaully end up appreciating what Tim Sylvia says.

Now lets see what he does…. in the octogon.

By the way, I wonder if he charged 40 dollars for the interview?

I would love to see Sylvia take on Fedor. The only thing worth betting on in that fight would be whether Timmy gets knocked out or submitted.

while some good points are made, let us not forget all of these have been fought under UFC rules. there have been tons more examples of ufc guys going to pride and getting handled in the ring.

Silvia and Hughes have been doing alot of laughing at people getting beat but hate to be disrepected? What have you done for me lately?

[quote comment=”55355″].i dont know if cc can knock sylvia out with a high kick, he knock aleks out with one, hes 6-6 tim is 6-9, so i dont know…the key for cc would be leg [/quote]
CC is 6-6 if he stands on a yellow pages. Says he’s 6′2″ on ufc.com. But yeah, I’d like to see those two fight.

[quote comment=”55395″]First good comment by Tim Sylvia in a long time.
I like it, i like it a lot.[/quote]
I like him but I think he should keep his mouth shut until he gets a couple wins back under his belt. They need to be vicious KO’s and he needs to be in shape.

[quote comment=”55407″][quote comment=”55355″].i dont know if cc can knock sylvia out with a high kick, he knock aleks out with one, hes 6-6 tim is 6-9, so i dont know…the key for cc would be leg [/quote]
CC is 6-6 if he stands on a yellow pages. Says he’s 6′2″ on ufc.com. But yeah, I’d like to see those two fight.[/quote]
he meant aleks is 6′6″

I have to say, Timmy does have a valid point. I’m not saying that the fights he has mentioned necessarily mean that UFC is better (and he forgot to mention Monson), but it does without a doubt bring the original assumption of Pride dominance into question.

Hopefully, the Super Bowl thing happens. Not like that will really prove anything anyway. It will just make the arguments more interesting.

UFC fighters are just as good as Pride fighters. They train just as hard and fight just as well. Only difference is Pride is a little more bloody, and I guess that’s what people enjoy the most. But I agree, Tim is a piece of shit and needs to actually beat some UFC fighters before he talks about Pride fighters.

The H8 train continues!
Silvia can and will beat some of the best fighters in the world, but everyone will continue to hate on him..
He wasnt out of line by what he said…
He’s gotten a lot of heat about the UFC Heavyweights prior to a lot of big names coming in, and he will continue to get alot of heat, until he shows the fire that he had early on.

But yeah, Cro Cop is prolly the only fighter I dont see Tim beating on his best day… passed that, dude needs to get off his ass, lose some weight, get stronger, and fight with some fire under his testies.

If RC wins at 74 and retires, could a heavyweight tournament be in the future?

Personally I don’t think he can beat any of the PRIDE guys, but i will agree with him and say that UFC fighters basically don’t get enough credit. I’m glad the UFC fighters are getting there recognition in violent fashion too. MMA will change forever once some of these super fights start taking place.

I think over all most commentators are a little too harsh on big Tim, but I’m not sure I completely agree with ufc’s dick is bigger than prides dick mentality. They both have great fighters and to say one is better than the other sounds juvenile to me like saying “my dad could beat up your dad”. Tim over all is a pretty good fighter not the best but better than most give him credit for, but the dude seriously needs to work on his PR.

Yeah, and this is coming from a guy who thought Randy Couture was a weak opponent.
I honestly think if Tim Slyvia would fight everyone from Pride FC I think he could posisbly beat 1 person and that person is Giant Silva.
But I hate Tim Slyvia, and Giant Silva is a joke.

[quote comment=”55407″][quote comment=”55355″].i dont know if cc can knock sylvia out with a high kick, he knock aleks out with one, hes 6-6 tim is 6-9, so i dont know…the key for cc would be leg [/quote]
CC is 6-6 if he stands on a yellow pages. Says he’s 6′2″ on ufc.com. But yeah, I’d like to see those two fight.[/quote]

mamas boy..i was talking about aleks is 6-6, not cro cop, cro cop is a pretty small heavy weight actually…and stafo, how can you say you dont think he can beat any pride guys, are you talking about the elite or ANY pride guys…from the looks of things, i think he would hold his own against everyone except fedor

There he goes again running his big mouth. I think him being the former heavyweight champ has gone to his head. does anyone care what he thinks. does anyone care what i think….hell no! Frank Mir please do us a favour and knock this guy out. How can he possibly get more annoying???

“I just don’t know why the fans don’t realize how good the UFC guys are.” -Tim Sylvia

Is Tim calling us dumb??? what fans are you talking about Tim? Pride FC fans??? Why don’t you take a visit to Japan and show them what your made of. Who better to represent the UFC than Tim “the Maniac” Sylvia. The former UFC Heavyweight Champion who’s record as champion is an outstanding 1-1!!!!
A man who has yet to face Mirko Cro Cop in the octagon in fear of killing the man with his own bare hands. Hey Timmy i wish you luck against Frank Mir i seriously do..Break a leg……..or should i say arm???

Sylvia we all know has an ego which is through the roof and he was only champ because the HW division was so weak at the time…but UFC fighters are tougher than Pride fighters

[quote comment=”55447″][quote comment=”55407″][quote comment=”55355″].i dont know if cc can knock sylvia out with a high kick, he knock aleks out with one, hes 6-6 tim is 6-9, so i dont know…the key for cc would be leg [/quote]
CC is 6-6 if he stands on a yellow pages. Says he’s 6′2″ on ufc.com. But yeah, I’d like to see those two fight.[/quote]

mamas boy..i was talking about aleks is 6-6, not cro cop, cro cop is a pretty small heavy weight actually…and stafo, how can you say you dont think he can beat any pride guys, are you talking about the elite or ANY pride guys…from the looks of things, i think he would hold his own against everyone except fedor[/quote]

yea I didn’t make myself clear. I was aying some of the new guys that just came over like NOG/Werdum/CC. I also don’t think he can hang with current PRIDe guys FEDOR/Alexander/Barnett/Hunt. I think Sylvia is a good fighter but he would have a lot of trouble with any of the guys named above. I feel that Sylvia/AA fights were weak, and AA will handle business if they ever do it again

well if we thought Pride Fc had the toughest/better fighters wouldn’t this sight be called PrideFCmania.com??? I would have to say this site is pro UFC wouldn’t you? Does anyone here prefer Pride FC over UFC? reasons???

[quote comment=”55474″]well if we thought Pride Fc had the toughest/better fighters wouldn’t this sight be called PrideFCmania.com??? I would have to say this site is pro UFC wouldn’t you? Does anyone here prefer Pride FC over UFC? reasons???[/quote]
HUH???????.

i wouldn’t consider tim’s opinion’s to be the same as all the ufc’s fans. i personally like different fighters from both organizations. yes this site is a little pro ufc. that’s why its called UFCmania.

[quote comment=”55474″]well if we thought Pride Fc had the toughest/better fighters wouldn’t this sight be called PrideFCmania.com??? I would have to say this site is pro UFC wouldn’t you? Does anyone here prefer Pride FC over UFC? reasons???[/quote]
I for one can say I dont ‘prefer’ either…
Im an MMA fan, I watch Bodog every tuesday in hopes of seeing some passionate and fiery fights, same with IFL…
I dont give a damn what promotion whomever fights for.. its all about the fight, not who its for. Dont take the name of the site and figure that everyone on it isnt a true MMA fan, or that we pound are chests saying ‘we’ are better then ‘them.’

Anyone hear about Kimbo finally going pro with Cage Rage? Their next card looks huge! Neer, Nick Serra…

[quote comment=”55488″][quote comment=”55474″]well if we thought Pride Fc had the toughest/better fighters wouldn’t this sight be called PrideFCmania.com??? I would have to say this site is pro UFC wouldn’t you? Does anyone here prefer Pride FC over UFC? reasons???[/quote]
I for one can say I dont ‘prefer’ either…
Im an MMA fan, I watch Bodog every tuesday in hopes of seeing some passionate and fiery fights, same with IFL…
I dont give a damn what promotion whomever fights for.. its all about the fight, not who its for. Dont take the name of the site and figure that everyone on it isnt a true MMA fan, or that we pound are chests saying ‘we’ are better then ‘them.’

Anyone hear about Kimbo finally going pro with Cage Rage? Their next card looks huge! Neer, Nick Serra…[/quote]
Agree COMPLETELY with the first part. The second part, I posted that to Mania since he has done some Kimbo threads before. It’s not Cage Rage, it’s CFFC. And he’s fighting Ray Mercer, the ex-boxer. Doubt we’ll see any ground game in this one, we all know Kimbo wont fight on the ground and Mercer only goes to the ground when he drops food there.

cro cop would smash him,I notice he dosent say he wants to fight him next

What Kimbo is going to fight Mercer and Tommy Gun is making the move to MMA also. This is nutz!

What does Wanderlei losing to Dan Henderson have to do with UFC fighters being better than PRIDE fighters?

Also the reason people thought PRIDE fighters are better is because when UFC went to PRIDE, they generally were on the losing side and Barnett went over there as UFC champ, beating the current UFC champ Randy, and he was beaten by CroCop 2 times. Gonzaga beating CroCop doesnt really show how good the UFC guys are as noone has beaten Gonzaga in the UFC and he was not seen as a staple heavyweight last year.

[quote comment=”55468″]”I just don’t know why the fans don’t realize how good the UFC guys are.” -Tim Sylvia

Is Tim calling us dumb??? what fans are you talking about Tim? Pride FC fans??? Why don’t you take a visit to Japan and show them what your made of. Who better to represent the UFC than Tim “the Maniac” Sylvia. The former UFC Heavyweight Champion who’s record as champion is an outstanding 1-1!!!!
A man who has yet to face Mirko Cro Cop in the octagon in fear of killing the man with his own bare hands. Hey Timmy i wish you luck against Frank Mir i seriously do..Break a leg……..or should i say arm???[/quote]
My God, calm down….you pretty much just made a whole different story than what it is, lol.

[quote comment=”55530″]What Kimbo is going to fight Mercer and Tommy Gun is making the move to MMA also. This is nutz![/quote]
I’ve been waiting for Kimbo to beat someone’s ass other than in a parking lot or in someone’s backyard.

I would love to see sylvia v cro cop. I can just picture a few leg kicks from CroCop to that knock-kneed fuck.

First of all Tim Sylvia sucks. He’s a B class fighter and doesnt know what hes talking about. Yes he is right about who beat who but I think everyone agrees that this year is huge on upsets. I’m not saying that pride guys are better than UFC guys, All I’m saying is that UFC guys aren’t better than pride guys. and if timmy were to go up against any top ranked heavyweights as of right now , (crocop, fedor, couture, noguiera) he’d get raped so he has no room to talk.

quote]
Agree COMPLETELY with the first part. The second part, I posted that to Mania since he has done some Kimbo threads before. It’s not Cage Rage, it’s CFFC. And he’s fighting Ray Mercer, the ex-boxer. Doubt we’ll see any ground game in this one, we all know Kimbo wont fight on the ground and Mercer only goes to the ground when he drops food there.[/quote]
MTUFC, i read your thread on that a while back. you definately make your way around the mma world:)

Sylvia was the UFC HW champ and defended his title several times. Anybody that doesn’t give him the respect he deserves for that has low character and doesn’t deserve any respect from anybody else.

Sylvia has been guilty of taking the safe route to his recent wins, but he was successful at it only because his opponents were too chicken-shit to engage, including that pussy Arlovski. Couture took it to Sylvia and took him totally off his game plan, which is why he won. But if you think Sylvia won’t come back with a new outlook, having learned his lesson, you’re in for a big surprise, and unless you’ve all been living in a vacuum lately, any given fighter on any given day can beat the favorite.

mma is mma regardless of what organization you fight under.Hey,Tim how does it feel,knowing that you are never going to be champ again.

[quote comment=”55530″]What Kimbo is going to fight Mercer and Tommy Gun is making the move to MMA also. This is nutz![/quote]
Is Tommy Gun that dude who was in Rocky 5, if so i thought he couldn’t fight because he was HIV .

[quote comment=”55711″][quote comment=”55530″]What Kimbo is going to fight Mercer and Tommy Gun is making the move to MMA also. This is nutz![/quote]
Is Tommy Gun that dude who was in Rocky 5, if so i thought he couldn’t fight because he was HIV .[/quote]

Yeah thats him..I didn’t hear anything about HIV

[quote comment=”55712″][quote comment=”55711″][quote comment=”55530″]What Kimbo is going to fight Mercer and Tommy Gun is making the move to MMA also. This is nutz![/quote]
Is Tommy Gun that dude who was in Rocky 5, if so i thought he couldn’t fight because he was HIV .[/quote]

Yeah thats him..I didn’t hear anything about HIV[/quote]
Whether it was a false positive, or Magic Johnson case, he now tests HIV free.

Tim needs to prove himself against top tier opponents & talking a good one won’t get that done. Although I dont care for Tim, I will respect his fight game if he ever starts to back up that big mouth of his. Something tells me he never will.

Tommy Gun did have HIV. I guess he got a hold of whatever that miracle drug was that Magic was taking. Either way, his MMA debut does’nt excite me in the least.

Kimbo Slice is fine for brutal street fights but he’ll get owned by any MMArtist worth his weight in training. He’ll make his career against bottom tier opponents who will almost always be ex-boxers of some sort. Basically, Kimbo Slice is the 2007 version of Tank Abbott.

Tommy Gunns real name is Tommy Morrison

[quote comment=”55732″]Tommy Gunns real name is Tommy Morrison[/quote]

AHAHA!!! now maybe Chuck can trade with him like he said he wanted to!!!

[quote post=”2107″]Basically, Kimbo Slice is the 2007 version of Tank Abbott.[/quote]
Well said.

[quote comment=”55532″]
Also the reason people thought PRIDE fighters are better is because when UFC went to PRIDE, they generally were on the losing side and Barnett went over there as UFC champ, beating the current UFC champ Randy, and he was beaten by CroCop 2 times. Gonzaga beating CroCop doesnt really show how good the UFC guys are as noone has beaten Gonzaga in the UFC and he was not seen as a staple heavyweight last year.[/quote]

haha Exaclty, Gonzaga isnt even a “good” ufc fighter. (Or wasnt yet) when he beat CC. Your only proving the UFC point even better. If the non-contendars in UFC can beat arguable the best Pride HW, what does that tell yuo? You didnt argue that very well.
Oh and don’t forget Monson’s recent Pride success.

[quote comment=”55374″]Not much of a Timmy fan either, but he does have a point. Herring was brought in to challege for the title and gets beaten by a one-dimensional wrestler brought in as a sacrifical lamb. Then, the title was Cro Cop’s for the taking and he gets KO’d by a guy nobody thought was a contender. Werdum couldn’t get past Arlovski. Gomi’s taken out by Nick “Cheech Marin” Diaz. In fact, the only recent ex-PRIDE fighter who’s made a good showing for himself is Anderson Silva. You can’t blame Timmy for weighing in on the long-held debate of “Who’s better? Pride or UFC?” The rest of us keyboard warriors have been doing it for years, but we’ve never volunteered to fight anybody in order to prove our point. He has a right to gloat a little since he was the champion of a division that was Exhibit Number 1 in the argument for why the UFC sucked. Now, ex-PRIDE fighters are 2-3 in that supposedly lousy UFC Heavyweight Division. He’s sticking up for the guys in his division and his organization. I can’t bitch and moan about that. Now can Timmy actually beat any of those guys? We’ll see.[/quote]

Umm herring had a torn MCL and hid it from the pre fight inspection doctors…technically he shouldnt have been cleared to fight, notice how during that fight he kept his hand dropped over his knee like James Toney…or how he didnt even attempt to sprawl once…if youve seen herring fight before you could tell somthing was seriously wrong…In herrings secong fight against Brad Imes he was healthy and whooped his ass..Herring is a tough guy…not #1…But dangerous to anyone he fights…but I do believe UFC HW has been underated for too long..although If cro cops history means anything, after a big loss he always comes back on a viscious win streak..IE after Randleman..Fedor..etc..BTW I saw Randy on Long Island at Nordstroms on Saturday..and the rumor on the street is Cro Cop vs Vera sometime this summer… anyone want to make a bet? Also Randy said Rampage over Chuck if it means anything to anyone

[quote comment=”55711″][quote comment=”55530″]What Kimbo is going to fight Mercer and Tommy Gun is making the move to MMA also. This is nutz![/quote]
Is Tommy Gun that dude who was in Rocky 5, if so i thought he couldn’t fight because he was HIV .[/quote]

Read this:
“I couldn’t believe that,” Morrison says. “It’s one thing to talk about fighting someone, but another thing to actually do it. Let’s see if Chuck Liddell’s heart is as big as his mouth.”

Morrison continued, “He is crazy to want to get into the cage with me. I beat George Foreman. Nobody in the history of boxing hit harder than George Foreman. So why would I be afraid to get hit by Chuck Liddell? He should be the one to be afraid. Liddell has never been hit by anyone like me.”

“[UFC President] Dana White always talks about how a top cagefighter like Liddell could beat a top boxer, so here’s a chance to make it happen. I want to know if Liddell and Dana White really mean what they say or if they are just full of talk.” Throwing down the gauntlet, Morrison finished, “I will take on Chuck Liddell anytime, anyplace, anywhere.”
– Tommy Morrison

[quote post=”2107″]Read this:
“I couldn’t believe that,” Morrison says. “It’s one thing to talk about fighting someone, but another thing to actually do it. Let’s see if Chuck Liddell’s heart is as big as his mouth.”
Morrison continued, “He is crazy to want to get into the cage with me. I beat George Foreman. Nobody in the history of boxing hit harder than George Foreman. So why would I be afraid to get hit by Chuck Liddell? He should be the one to be afraid. Liddell has never been hit by anyone like me.”
“[UFC President] Dana White always talks about how a top cagefighter like Liddell could beat a top boxer, so here’s a chance to make it happen. I want to know if Liddell and Dana White really mean what they say or if they are just full of talk.” Throwing down the gauntlet, Morrison finished, “I will take on Chuck Liddell anytime, anyplace, anywhere.”
— Tommy Morrison[/quote]

I did say that I could care less about Tommy’s MMA debut but I must admit that I’d love to see this fight go down! Alas, it will never happen unless Rampage takes the belt on the 26th (which I’ve already bet money that he will). Even under that circumstance it still may never take place because Chuck will definately (mark my words) make a run at the HW title if he loses the belt to Rampage, especially if Randy gets by Gonzaga. I mean, with all of the big talk & empty promises Dana’s been making lately, I would’nt bank on it.

I hope that is right about Herring being injured in that first loss. If he upsets Noguira, that would really make a mess.

Maybe Tim should go dominate the IFL. I watched IFL last night with the American Idol ring model thing. Their heavyweights are far weaker than UFC or Pride’s. Tim Sylvia could go unbeaten there.

[quote comment=”56215″]I hope that is right about Herring being injured in that first loss. If he upsets Noguira, that would really make a mess.[/quote]
Not sure why my post got clipped.

whatever u say poopy pants.lets all judge fighters not on there careers but off of one fight.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jESfadAYOJ0

[quote comment=”56264″]whatever u say poopy pants.lets all judge fighters not on there careers but off of one fight.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=jESfadAYOJ0/quote
Dude, that comes from Jerry Millen. Remember that spokesman for the Iraqi Army named Baghdad Bob? Remember how as our troops approached the city, he was saying how the Americans were burning in their tanks at the hands of the Republican Guard? Remember after the combat phase of the war ended, a US ARMY general was asked if Baghdad Bob was a priority for capture and the guy laughed? He said I dont care what happens to thay guy, but he was funnier than hell? That’s Jerry Millen.

[quote comment=”55474″]well if we thought Pride Fc had the toughest/better fighters wouldn’t this sight be called PrideFCmania.com??? I would have to say this site is pro UFC wouldn’t you? Does anyone here prefer Pride FC over UFC? reasons???[/quote]

How’s this for a concept..I’m an MMA fan..I like BOTH Pride and UFC

Tim Sylvia is a prick for disrespecting other fighters.

Every fighter loses. Just because a fighter loses doesn’t mean he’s overrated.

I mean shit..Tim Sylvia lost consecutive fights to Mir and Arlovski by sub in a total of 3 minutes combined and lost to a 43 year old Light Heavyweight..should we hold that against him

[quote comment=”56572″][quote comment=”55474″]well if we thought Pride Fc had the toughest/better fighters wouldn’t this sight be called PrideFCmania.com??? I would have to say this site is pro UFC wouldn’t you? Does anyone here prefer Pride FC over UFC? reasons???[/quote]

How’s this for a concept..I’m an MMA fan..I like BOTH Pride and UFC

Tim Sylvia is a prick for disrespecting other fighters.

Every fighter loses. Just because a fighter loses doesn’t mean he’s overrated.

I mean shit..Tim Sylvia lost consecutive fights to Mir and Arlovski by sub in a total of 3 minutes combined and lost to a 43 year old Light Heavyweight..should we hold that against him[/quote]

Yes we should. I hope Sylvia gets his ass kicked vs whomever at UFC 74. If anything Couture showed what a flabby joke Sylvia is.

Tim needs to shut up… this guy will never hold the title again. I hope Vera puts him to sleep. Then get him to take Cro Cop who will bust him up. Maybe Mirko can do it nwo style and smoother him with a pride shirt as he laid out staring into the lights.

Tim your a snore and you blow.