Mauricio “Shogun” Rua will make his long-awaited Octagon debut at UFC 76 in Anaheim, Calif., according to quotes attributed to UFC President Dana White in The Oregonian.
No opponent has been named at this point.
Here’s a snip from White:
“He’s signed and ready to roll. You couldn’t meet a classier guy in your whole life. He will be so marketable.”
The Brazilian light heavyweight — who is considered the top 205-pound fighter in the world — is the 2005 PRIDE FC Middleweight Grand Prix Champion. He destroyed Alistair Overeem and highly touted Ricardo Arona in the same night — both in the first round — to capture the coveted title.
Shogun also dismantled current UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton “Rampage” Jackson with a first round knockout at PRIDE: “Total Elimination” in 2005.
His only “real” loss was to Renato “Babalu” Sobral early in his career. Shogun also has dropped a fight with Mark Coleman, but that was because Rua fell at an awkward angle and broke his arm during the fight.
There’s no telling who UFC matchmaker Joe Silva will put in the cage with him at the Honda Center during UFC 76. But Shogun has made short work of some of the very best fighters in the sport throughout his career.
Look for that trend to continue in the UFC.
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In other news, White mentions in the article that he is, “moving close to signing a contract that would bring PRIDE FC heavyweight champion Fedor Emelianenko, widely considered the best fighter in the world, to the UFC.”
Take it for what it’s worth because this had been speculated since the beginning of 2007. However, there is some unsubstantiated news coming out of some reliable Russian message boards that corroborates White’s latest claim.
Let’s hope this time the news is closer to fact than it is rumor.
June 22nd, 2007
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YESSSSSSSS!!! This is what we have all been waiting to hear!!!!!
If Dana White plans on making Shogun marketable, then he won’t fight a top ten Light Heavyweight in his debut match int he UFC. I would think he would still get to fight someone someone tough in his debut match. Maybe he fights a guy like Jardine or Machida or maybe he fights David Terrell.
Red, yer right… Its gonna be a stepping stone for Shogun (or maybe two) before he fights anyone worth a salt.
As far as Fedor - Good luck. Id really like to sit here and say that Fedor would see competition in the UFC.. but outside of the architect (randy), Gonzaga, Mirko, Arlovski, Sylvia… I dont want to see him drop trough and shit on all the fighters. UFC HW division is piss poor outside of those names.
You wrote that Shogun’s “only loss is to Mark Coleman.” That’s not true; Shogun lost to Babalu as well.
Nevertheless, he should do very well in the UFC.
[quote post=”2498″]but outside of the architect (randy), Gonzaga, Mirko, Arlovski, Sylvia… I dont want to see him drop trough and shit on all the fighters. UFC HW division is piss poor outside of those names.[/quote]
You failed to mention Sherman Pendergarst and Kerry Schall
I’ve got a question I would like to hear your predictions on…..
Once Fedor comes to the UFC, who will be the first person to beat him?
I thought Renato Sobral beat Shogun too….
Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.
I’d like to see Houston alexander take on Shogun. If he thinks his striking is the best because he beat Jardine then let him prove it. It would be a good stepping stone fight for Shogun anyway.
[quote comment=”86607″]I thought Renato Sobral beat Shogun too….[/quote]
He did
[quote comment=”86610″]I’d like to see Houston alexander take on Shogun. If he thinks his striking is the best because he beat Jardine then let him prove it. It would be a good stepping stone fight for Shogun anyway.[/quote]
I was just going to say that, Houston Alexander should fight Shogun. However I wouldnt be too surprised if either of them got knocked out, and I bet Dana would hate to have him lose in his octagon debut.
[quote comment=”86603″]I’ve got a question I would like to hear your predictions on…..
Once Fedor comes to the UFC, who will be the first person to beat him?[/quote]
Only Fedor can beat Fedor
BTW What’s that mark on Shogun’s arm? A burn?
he did lose to babalu
fedor will retired unbeatend with the exception of his “loss” in the tournament style back in 2001 in believe due to a cut
Take this for what its worth(I live in Vegas and workout at Extreme Couture) but I heard that Shogun is getting the loser of the Tito/Evans fight. They will give the winner of that fight another match in Oct/Nov. and it will set up the Ortiz/Rua fight that everyone is waiting for if Tito wins and if Tito loses you’ll see that fight in Oct!
[quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
The Brandon Vera who’s moving to lightweight? Yea, definetly…
As for the Shogun-Alexander bout: that would be by far the most stupid match-up the UFC could produce. At this time the UFC does not know if his KO victory over Jardine was a fluke or Jardine’s fault, he said maybe one time too often how he’s already looking past his fight with Alexander and didn’t seemed that focused.
If Alexander turns out to be a knockout artist and he has been promoted well enough, then it would make sense. But imagine Dana brings in Shogun and he gets knocked out by Alexander, who is still a nobody. That would be CroCop all over again, except it would be even in his very first fight.
What Shogun should get is someone with a name who poses a certain level of risk, but is not entirely unpredictable. Someone like Tito Ortiz, who desperately tries to redeem himself or Forrest Griffin, thou I’d feel sorry for Griffin being on the recieving end of Shoguns Chute Boxe Muay Thai. A Shogun-Sobral rematch would certainly be a good idea, but rematches are usually 2nd or 3rd fights.
[quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
NO vera isnt strong enough and doesnt have half the stiking of fedor
[quote comment=”86603″]I’ve got a question I would like to hear your predictions on…..
Once Fedor comes to the UFC, who will be the first person to beat him?[/quote]
Only Fedor can beat Fedor
[quote comment=”86612″][quote comment=”86607″]I thought Renato Sobral beat Shogun too….[/quote]
He did[/quote]
Yes, he did. Wrote this post in about 5 mins — not really an excuse, it just slipped my mind. Sorry about that. And thanks for the correction.
[quote comment=”86580″]If Dana White plans on making Shogun marketable, then he won’t fight a top ten Light Heavyweight in his debut match int he UFC. I would think he would still get to fight someone someone tough in his debut match. Maybe he fights a guy like Jardine or Machida or maybe he fights David Terrell.[/quote]
i like ur thinking red…
Renato Sobral needs another fight coming off that loss to Lambert. I would love to see a remacth of Sobral Sho Gun in his 2nd fight in, It was a classic the first time in.If you haven’t seen it check it out on you tube. I’d like to see Sobral fight Wilson Gouviea (3 straight UFC wins) and I’d like to see Sho Gun fight Machida (beaten B.J. Penn and Franklin) or feed stephan booner to him if he wins on the undercard of UFC 73. I can’t wait for the 2 of them to fight again!
[quote comment=”86624″][quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
The Brandon Vera who’s moving to lightweight? Yea, definetly…
As for the Shogun-Alexander bout: that would be by far the most stupid match-up the UFC could produce. At this time the UFC does not know if his KO victory over Jardine was a fluke or Jardine’s fault, he said maybe one time too often how he’s already looking past his fight with Alexander and didn’t seemed that focused.
If Alexander turns out to be a knockout artist and he has been promoted well enough, then it would make sense. But imagine Dana brings in Shogun and he gets knocked out by Alexander, who is still a nobody. That would be CroCop all over again, except it would be even in his very first fight.
[/quote]Rofl….
Yeah, I dont see anyone flat out beating Fedor in the UFC… upsets are possible. But if I had to pick… Couture might have the ground skills to hold him, if he can stay away from the Fedor’s Jujitsu he might edge out a decision.
And yeah… Alexander needs a few more fights before fighting someone like Shogun. I think Alexander is going to be ‘protected’ by Dana for a bit…
J, Dana is gonng ‘feed’ Bonnar to anyone.. Dana wants Bonnar in the UFC, and winning. He is a large name for the UFC.
Can’t wait to see shoguns debut against whoever, I would love to see Fedor fight tim sylvia, just because all the smack sylvia was talking and other people saying sylvia is the best HW in the world when he was champ. Fedor would would smoke him.
the david terrel fight wont happen for sure, i doubt Dana would risk Terrell pulling out days before the fight, and then trying to find someone to fight SHOGUN on days notice…it wont be a nobody ala Eddie Snachez, because look at what that did for CC…I think Tito and Rashad are bad matchups for Shogun, not to mention his first fight should showcase his Standup, not his jits…Doubtfull Machida, will slow Shogun down too much, Babalu needs a win first i think, Alexander no, for reasons Youtapped mentioned, Ufc wont risk forrest or Bisping just yet…I would say Bonnar (name, hungry coming off of suspension), Jardine (name, hungry coming off of bad loss),Wilson Gouvie would be fun to watch but hasnt really made a name so it would be risky like Houston..Hector Ramirez, i wouldnt really want to see it, but i can see them doing that…if James Irvin recovered by then i can see that..i bet they will give him someone who likes to bang, but also has a punchers chance and maybe a little ground game
I doubt Shoguns gonna have a real tough test on his first fight coz he has to adapt to the cage the rules the Americans and the rest of it so it would realy be unfair to expect him to fight Chuck on his debut.
I think he might struggle not being able to use those stomps.
Lets hope he dosent get caught up in the moment in his first fight and head stomp someone and get DQed.
I cant wait to see Fedor in the UFC its pretty much inevetable now isnt it.Imagine Fedor having someone against the cage and raining elbows down on them,thats a fighter who the UFC makes sense to.
Cant wait to see the Russian experiment in action in the UFC,
HE IS NOT A MAN HES A MMA-CHINE
[quote/]J, Dana is gonng ‘feed’ Bonnar to anyone.. Dana wants Bonnar in the UFC, and winning. He is a large name for the UFC.[/quote]
I would hope that Dana would feed Bonner. He’s done virtually nothing since losing to Forest in the Ultimate Fighter finale. He won two conterversial desisions over Hoger and Jardine. He’s lost two lucklaster fighters to Evans and Forrest again. He got suspended for taking steroids. There only thing he’s done sinc ethe T.V.show is submit James Irvin. Where I come from anyways everyone thinks he’s a overrated fighter and washed up. Why not give Sho Gun some respectability by killing a NAME (thats all he is) and getting rid of Bonner at the same time? I don’t know if Dana knows when to throw away a washed up fighter anymore but he needs to learn if he doesn’t allready.
Shogun vs Vera would be pretty cool.
I want to see a title shot as soon as he gets to the UFC.
[quote comment=”86590″]You wrote that Shogun’s “only loss is to Mark Coleman.” That’s not true; Shogun lost to Babalu as well.
Nevertheless, he should do very well in the UFC.[/quote]
The current story above reads:
His only “real” loss was to Renato “Babalu” Sobral early in his career. Shogun also has dropped a fight with Mark Coleman, but that was because Rua fell at an awkward angle and broke his arm during the fight.
Maybe you saw an earlier post?
[quote comment=”86686″]
Maybe you saw an earlier post?[/quote]
UFCmania saw the comment and corrected it afterwards.
[quote comment=”86671″][quote/]J, Dana is gonng ‘feed’ Bonnar to anyone.. Dana wants Bonnar in the UFC, and winning. He is a large name for the UFC.[/quote]
I would hope that Dana would feed Bonner. He’s done virtually nothing since losing to Forest in the Ultimate Fighter finale. He won two conterversial desisions over Hoger and Jardine. He’s lost two lucklaster fighters to Evans and Forrest again. He got suspended for taking steroids. There only thing he’s done sinc ethe T.V.show is submit James Irvin. Where I come from anyways everyone thinks he’s a overrated fighter and washed up. Why not give Sho Gun some respectability by killing a NAME (thats all he is) and getting rid of Bonner at the same time? I don’t know if Dana knows when to throw away a washed up fighter anymore but he needs to learn if he doesn’t allready.[/quote]
I completely agree. As we all recall Forrest officially won the TUF finale but they gave Boner a contract anyway (and it still is one of the greatest fights ever). They bent the rules but Boner hasn’t measured up. Steroid scandal AND losses. Buh bye!
[quote comment=”86636″]Renato Sobral needs another fight coming off that loss to Lambert. I would love to see a remacth of Sobral Sho Gun in his 2nd fight in, [/quote]
That might be a really good idea. The UFC is big on rematches. Rampage’s first fight against Marvin the martian setup that way. Liddell-Horn II, Hughes-Penn II, list goes on.
Just like the Houston Alexander situation though- do they want to protect Sobral? If he loses another one he might be finished. And what if it turns out he has Shogun’s number and submits him? For the money they are putting out on Shogun they want to give him an easier starter fight.
Shogun-Sobral 2 would be like Rampage-Eastman 2
[quote comment=”86671″][quote/]J, Dana is gonng ‘feed’ Bonnar to anyone.. Dana wants Bonnar in the UFC, and winning. He is a large name for the UFC.[/quote]
I would hope that Dana would feed Bonner. He’s done virtually nothing since losing to Forest in the Ultimate Fighter finale. He won two conterversial desisions over Hoger and Jardine. He’s lost two lucklaster fighters to Evans and Forrest again. He got suspended for taking steroids. There only thing he’s done sinc ethe T.V.show is submit James Irvin. Where I come from anyways everyone thinks he’s a overrated fighter and washed up. Why not give Sho Gun some respectability by killing a NAME (thats all he is) and getting rid of Bonner at the same time? I don’t know if Dana knows when to throw away a washed up fighter anymore but he needs to learn if he doesn’t allready.[/quote]
Firstly, I agree with you… 100%. Should Bonnar be ass raped? ABSOLUTELY. But, Dana looks at Griffin and Bonnar as the saviors of the UFC… because in all honesty they are. Without that fight, would the UFC be buying Pride, selling out internationally, running their fifth TUF? I doubt it… but where they could of went, who bloody well knows.
Id love to see Bonnar’s cheating bitch ass wiped on the ground like a bloody mop, but dont see it happening. He is a headlineing card fighter (again) if he can put 2 wins together in the UFC.
Shogun-Sobral 2 would be like Rampage-Eastman 2
I agree, good call
but I wouldn’t mind seeing him try his hand with a true martial artist like Chuck”Walker Texas Ranger” Norris!!
I dont know what the hell happened to Babalu… Top 5 fighter in the world one day, chump 6 monthes later.
[quote post=”2498″]Renato Sobral needs another fight coming off that loss to Lambert. I would love to see a remacth of Sobral Sho Gun in his 2nd fight in,
That might be a really good idea. The UFC is big on rematches. Rampage’s first fight against Marvin the martian setup that way. Liddell-Horn II, Hughes-Penn II, list goes on.[/quote]
Yes, but this would actually be the rubber match.
This card could possibly be one of the best ever, if they lock down that Liddell/Wandy fight. Shogun is goingto be on the card. Swick scheuled to be on 76 at new 170 weight. MAybe…..a Fedor announcement. I’m definetly going to be at this event
I agree that Babalu does need to win a fight before his rematch. But i would pick Sobral, i just think he may have his number, sure it was one fight years ago when Renato was a beast, and maybe im bias cuz Babalu is my second favorite fighter, but he is too good to lose three or four in row and to good to be kicked out of the UFC!
[quote comment=”86603″]I’ve got a question I would like to hear your predictions on…..
Once Fedor comes to the UFC, who will be the first person to beat him?[/quote]
Maybe noone, but if there is a man that can come up with a game plan out there… his name is Randy. I’m not saying he himself could do it, but he could find the holes in his game.(if there r any)The person Randy would train 2 fight Fedor might not be able 2 beat him either, but like I said, if someone could do it, his name would be Rocky….oops, I mean Randy.
Give him Marvin Eastman. The mma journeyman.
[quote comment=”86768″][quote comment=”86671″][quote/]J, Dana is gonng ‘feed’ Bonnar to anyone.. Dana wants Bonnar in the UFC, and winning. He is a large name for the UFC.[/quote]
[/quote]
But, Dana looks at Griffin and Bonnar as the saviors of the UFC… because in all honesty they are. Without that fight, would the UFC be buying Pride, selling out internationally, running their fifth TUF?
Id love to see Bonnar’s cheating bitch ass wiped on the ground like a bloody mop, but dont see it happening. He is a headlineing card fighter (again) if he can put 2 wins together in the UFC.[/quote]
As for Boner saving the UFC- Dana White is a “what have you done for me lately” guy. He went from Liddell nut hugger to “Chuck has a lot to prove” in less than 24 hours. Had Boner beaten Rashad Evans as he was supposed to or pulled off the comeback victory and beat Forrest (setting up Boner-Griffin III cha-ching!), then “ah steroids, schmeroids”. But he’s a loser even “juiced”.
One more loss and Boner is finished.
[quote comment=”86938″]Give him Marvin Eastman. The mma journeyman.[/quote]
I think Marvin the martian, Elvis Stojko, Bill Manhood and Sam Haggar should fight in a worst of the worst tournament.
[quote comment=”86803″][quote post=”2498″]Renato Sobral needs another fight coming off that loss to Lambert. I would love to see a remacth of Sobral Sho Gun in his 2nd fight in,
That might be a really good idea. The UFC is big on rematches. Rampage’s first fight against Marvin the martian setup that way. Liddell-Horn II, Hughes-Penn II, list goes on.[/quote]
Yes, but this would actually be the rubber match.[/quote]
I looked up Sobral’s history on Sherdog and it only shows one fight with Rua. Did they fight twice?
BTW- for anyone who doesn’t already know, ufc.com only shows UFC fights whereas sherdog.com appears to have complete histories across organizations.
Chuck would destroy Shogun easily,KO in under two minutes.
[quote comment=”87126″]Chuck would destroy Shogun easily,KO in under two minutes.[/quote]
4 real? I’d think a little more about that. I’m a fan of both, but that is a bold statement to make.
[quote comment=”87211″][quote comment=”87126″]Chuck would destroy Shogun easily,KO in under two minutes.[/quote]
4 real? I’d think a little more about that. I’m a fan of both, but that is a bold statement to make.[/quote]
I tell you how sure I am,I bet on your eyesight and hearing he would lol na but seriously I think Chuck would beat him and I also think Bisping could beat him and that is no joke I honestly think he has what it takes,to me Bisping reminds me of Fedor,put him in a fight with practicly anyone and hel find a way to win.
HAMILL THE HAMPSTER WILL BE CRUSHED LIKE IRAQ
Dana didn’t mean that the WEC is or was a bigger purchase as far as cash dollars or fighting talent pool was concerned. Just with the TV deal and all it could easily become a huge thing for them now, bigger then what Pride is now or what they will turn it into.
[quote comment=”87287″][quote comment=”87211″][quote comment=”87126″]Chuck would destroy Shogun easily,KO in under two minutes.[/quote]
4 real? I’d think a little more about that. I’m a fan of both, but that is a bold statement to make.[/quote]
I tell you how sure I am,I bet on your eyesight and hearing he would lol na but seriously I think Chuck would beat him and I also think Bisping could beat him and that is no joke I honestly think he has what it takes,to me Bisping reminds me of Fedor,put him in a fight with practicly anyone and hel find a way to win.
HAMILL THE HAMPSTER WILL BE CRUSHED LIKE IRAQ[/quote]
I agree with you Bisping is one of the underated fighters in the UFC. I think that he could beat Shogun. He should be fighting bigger names, this is a step back in his career
shogun being there would be great i would really like to go to the event, i think lidell might fight in this one since he is a cali native like myself. do you think tickets will be hard to get??then again 15 to 18 thousand can be seated there.
[quote comment=”86959″]As for Boner saving the UFC- Dana White is a “what have you done for me lately” guy. He went from Liddell nut hugger to “Chuck has a lot to prove” in less than 24 hours. Had Boner beaten Rashad Evans as he was supposed to or pulled off the comeback victory and beat Forrest (setting up Boner-Griffin III cha-ching!), then “ah steroids, schmeroids”. But he’s a loser even “juiced”.
One more loss and Boner is finished.[/quote]
Dana has been very kind to roid heads coming back to the UFC.
Sylvia was stripped of his title, came back and won it (even though there was a total of like 4 HWs in the UFC..)
Marquardt has a title fight in front of him…
But I think you are right, if Bonnar doesnt win his next two, he is done.
Shogun might actually get a good fighter….
Minotauro is going against HH for his first UFC fight. Even though HH isnt what he used to be, he is still a top5-10 HW in the UFC.
mania, wikipedia is reporting UFC 77 being called “Halloween Havoc” and having chuck and wandy fight. truth?
Fedor is scared of THE NATURAL
[quote post=”2498″]IceFan Jun 30th, 2007 at 6:23 pm Quote this comment
Fedor is scared of THE NATURAL[/quote]
uhmmmmm…
i think at ufc 76 chuck liddell should fight shogun i heard they want to match up chuck with someone good
i think at ufc 76 chuck liddell should fight shogun but forest griffiln could possibly fight shogun and i heard they want to match up chuck with keith jardine but chuck will take him out
[quote comment=”87287″][quote comment=”87211″][quote comment=”87126″]Chuck would destroy Shogun easily,KO in under two minutes.[/quote]
4 real? I’d think a little more about that. I’m a fan of both, but that is a bold statement to make.[/quote]
I tell you how sure I am,I bet on your eyesight and hearing he would lol na but seriously I think Chuck would beat him and I also think Bisping could beat him and that is no joke I honestly think he has what it takes,to me Bisping reminds me of Fedor,put him in a fight with practicly anyone and hel find a way to win.
HAMILL THE HAMPSTER WILL BE CRUSHED LIKE IRAQ[/quote]
Hamill actualy has a big chance of winning bisping. they are both great fighters but hamill as pretty good wrestling background and is a pretty good stand up fighter im pretty sure that fight is going all 3 rounds
it mentions that shogun lost to renato..you guys should read the artical more closely
Brandon Vera will beat Fedor ?
Fat Chance , vera might have a good run right now, but sooner or later , he’s gonna end up losing
[quote comment=”86644″][quote comment=”86624″][quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
As for the Shogun-Alexander bout: that would be by far the most stupid match-up the UFC could produce. At this time the UFC does not know if his KO victory over Jardine was a fluke or Jardine’s fault, he said maybe one time too often how he’s already looking past his fight with Alexander and didn’t seemed that focused.
If Alexander turns out to be a knockout artist and he has been promoted well enough, then it would make sense. But imagine Dana brings in Shogun and he gets knocked out by Alexander, who is still a nobody. That would be CroCop all over again, except it would be even in his very first fight.
What Shogun should get is someone with a name who poses a certain level of risk, but is not entirely unpredictable. Someone like Tito Ortiz, who desperately tries to redeem himself or Forrest Griffin, thou I’d feel sorry for Griffin being on the recieving end of Shoguns Chute Boxe Muay Thai. A Shogun-Sobral rematch would certainly be a good idea, but rematches are usually 2nd or 3rd fights.[/quote]
I smoke blunts with Houston Alexander here in Omaha, NE. Last year this skinny white dude submitted him at South Sokol Hall, before that KO over The Dean of Mean.
So there is NO WAY he will ever become near title contention in the UFC. Maybe Strikeforce or the WEC…if he steps it up.~
The fight I’d give anything to see is Couture VsFedor. If Dana could arrange that it would be a perfect match for either legend to retire from. What do y’all think?
[quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
brandon vera.. excellent fighter.. but to beat fedor? imposible
Fedor is the man, he can be beat, but not by anyone in the UFC anytime soon. The guys a beast, I beleive he can beat Coture, Sylvia, Arlovski and Kongo everyone has a lucky punch but to beat him you need more than a couple of those, hes been rocked by big ass dudes got a little fuzzy legged only to punch dude in the face drop him and rear naked choke him instantly, Someone was saying Bonnar is big name in the UFC that guys career is done hes been beat by some sorry ass dudes like Rashad, fedor would humilate hime. Also people were saying Sobral should make a come back and he almost beat Shogun. Almost doesnt count, Shogun is on another level and I think he will knock out Forrest, but like I always say we have to wait and see.
[quote comment=”116556″][quote comment=”86644″][quote comment=”86624″][quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
As for the Shogun-Alexander bout: that would be by far the most stupid match-up the UFC could produce. At this time the UFC does not know if his KO victory over Jardine was a fluke or Jardine’s fault, he said maybe one time too often how he’s already looking past his fight with Alexander and didn’t seemed that focused.
If Alexander turns out to be a knockout artist and he has been promoted well enough, then it would make sense. But imagine Dana brings in Shogun and he gets knocked out by Alexander, who is still a nobody. That would be CroCop all over again, except it would be even in his very first fight.
What Shogun should get is someone with a name who poses a certain level of risk, but is not entirely unpredictable. Someone like Tito Ortiz, who desperately tries to redeem himself or Forrest Griffin, thou I’d feel sorry for Griffin being on the recieving end of Shoguns Chute Boxe Muay Thai. A Shogun-Sobral rematch would certainly be a good idea, but rematches are usually 2nd or 3rd fights.[/quote]
I smoke blunts with Houston Alexander here in Omaha, NE. Last year this skinny white dude submitted him at South Sokol Hall, before that KO over The Dean of Mean.
So there is NO WAY he will ever become near title contention in the UFC. Maybe Strikeforce or the WEC…if he steps it up.~[/quote]
[quote comment=”116556″][quote comment=”86644″][quote comment=”86624″][quote comment=”86609″]Brandon Vera will beat Fedor.[/quote]
As for the Shogun-Alexander bout: that would be by far the most stupid match-up the UFC could produce. At this time the UFC does not know if his KO victory over Jardine was a fluke or Jardine’s fault, he said maybe one time too often how he’s already looking past his fight with Alexander and didn’t seemed that focused.
If Alexander turns out to be a knockout artist and he has been promoted well enough, then it would make sense. But imagine Dana brings in Shogun and he gets knocked out by Alexander, who is still a nobody. That would be CroCop all over again, except it would be even in his very first fight.
What Shogun should get is someone with a name who poses a certain level of risk, but is not entirely unpredictable. Someone like Tito Ortiz, who desperately tries to redeem himself or Forrest Griffin, thou I’d feel sorry for Griffin being on the recieving end of Shoguns Chute Boxe Muay Thai. A Shogun-Sobral rematch would certainly be a good idea, but rematches are usually 2nd or 3rd fights.[/quote]
I smoke blunts with Houston Alexander here in Omaha, NE. Last year this skinny white dude submitted him at South Sokol Hall, before that KO over The Dean of Mean.
So there is NO WAY he will ever become near title contention in the UFC. Maybe Strikeforce or the WEC…if he steps it up.~[/quote]
Hes not gonna fight Alexander he fighting Forrest even then, Shogun wouldnt let Alexander clown like that ill put my house onit and maybe Brandon Vera could beat Fedor after he defeats better competion like Sylvia then we will know for sure if he could hang with Fedor.
i want to see fedor vs tito ortiz ! and i like to watch fedor kicking his ass also there in tha cage…
wise and clever warrior couture has a chance against fedor
greco roman dirty boxing clinch… and if he can get top position maybe push him to the cage for GnP. lindland did great with greco roman underhooks - but then he never really had any momenso f domination - even without the rope grab it seems he never really had a chance other than the cut. but couture with nderhooks would be more trouble for fedor.
It’s hard to imagine fedor not having a better answer than gonzaga did though…
i think gonzaga could have a chance.
barnett
plus there’s fedor’s
striking, TD defense, submissions, cardio, footwork knees ….
yikes.