That is the best way to end 2007..The Axe Murderer vs The Iceman..Wow..my money is on Wand all the way to the bank..and on Matt Serra retaining his title..I look 4ward to seeing these two match ups.

I thought December 2006’s UFC 66 was a very good card, but this December’s card looks to be even better than last December. I hope it is Wanderlei Silva vs. Chuck Liddell. Liddell will beat Silva. The Hughes vs. Serra fight is also going to be really good. I love both Serra and Hughes. I have never rooted against Hughes, since he is one of my favorite fighers ever. I have to go with Serra cause he’s the man. I hope Serra submits Hughes.

Well, atleast he will be in the UFC. Whether it’s against Chuck or not. Great addition to the UFC.

hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra

Seriously. I like both Serra and Hughes, but Hughes is gonna demolish Serra.

Chuck is a bad fight for Wandy and I am 90% sure he will beat him.I have said this over and over but his style makes him a KO highlight reel adition for Chuck.Wandy will have to come up with a unique gameplan to beat Chuck coz his usual style will definitly not work.
Wandys a great fighter though and its gonna be great to see him fight against whoever.

[quote comment=”116365″]That is the best way to end 2007..The Axe Murderer vs The Iceman..Wow..my money is on Wand all the way to the bank..and on Matt Serra retaining his title..I look 4ward to seeing these two match ups.[/quote]

[quote comment=”116365″]That is the best way to end 2007..The Axe Murderer vs The Iceman..Wow..my money is on Wand all the way to the bank..and on Matt Serra retaining his title..I look 4ward to seeing these two match ups.[/quote]

Damn PhilqNY: we were just talkin about the UFC showing the EAST COAST no love….. Wish wanderlei would be fighting in East Rutherford New Jersey…. although Wandy vs. Chuck would be a great christmass treat, and as u said a great way of ending 2007. I think Matt Sera will succesfully defend his title..
F*ck matt hughes…. as Anderson silva said: “Hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself”…. Anderson doesnt even speak English but even he know Hughes is a dick

Wandy vs chuck could go either way…. Wandy is always super aggresive and can easily overwhelm Liddell, on the other hand chuck is a great counterpuncher.. wanderlei’s style plays to chucks advantage.

I cannoy make a prediction for this fight….. and we all know this fight will not go the distance.

DANA get this shit done.

Does anyone know if Dana is still chucks manager?

[quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]

..I don’t see how you can say Serra is overrated..the general opinion on Serra is that he was lucky against GSP and won’t be as lucky against Hughes..I think he is an awsome fighter who always lets it all hang out..win or lose..I wouldn’t place him as being overrated.

[quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]

Serra could KO Hughes though,if he did it to GSP he definitly can do it to Hughes.

Chuck is slippging with age and I think he will be overwhelmed by Wandi. One thing though, people hold his loss to Cro-Cop against him too much. It was open weight tourney and he was fighting a heavyweight. Hendo still smoked him clean though. Anyway I’m looking forward to seeing Silva in the Octagon again, I watched his fight with Belfort from 1998 a week ago and he was a quick victim of the fists of fury. If they fought now Belfort would be destroyed.

[quote comment=”116384″]Chuck is slippging with age and I think he will be overwhelmed by Wandi. One thing though, people hold his loss to Cro-Cop against him too much. It was open weight tourney and he was fighting a heavyweight. Hendo still smoked him clean though. Anyway I’m looking forward to seeing Silva in the Octagon again, I watched his fight with Belfort from 1998 a week ago and he was a quick victim of the fists of fury. If they fought now Belfort would be destroyed.[/quote

..Agree.

“I wouldn’t place him as being overrated.”

I was thinking the same. He actually is probably more underrated. Yes, he was a bit lucky taking down GSP, but Serra had almost earned himself a title shot even before TUF4. Unfortunately for him. Karo kicked his ass…but there’s no shame in that. Serra’s a solid fighter and I’m really hoping he hands Hughes a good ol’ fashioned ass whoopin come December. He has a better chance than most people are giving him credit for.

[quote comment=”116380″]Chuck is a bad fight for Wandy and I am 90% sure he will beat him.I have said this over and over but his style makes him a KO highlight reel adition for Chuck.Wandy will have to come up with a unique gameplan to beat Chuck coz his usual style will definitly not work.
Wandys a great fighter though and its gonna be great to see him fight against whoever.[/quote]

Well, I wouldn’t be so sure about this. Wandy has beaten Rampage before with a KO.

i really want the iceman to win against jardine now,if he wins and wins fast for sure well see him against wandy

Wanderlei Silva was beaten by a Dan Henderson who will be a 185 pound fighter after Rampage beats him. With no soccer kicks allowed in the UFC, Chuck takes this one.

I may be from NY and all but there is zero chance for Matt Serra to beat the greatest welterweight of all time. Matt Hughes is far superior in strength. Any submissions attempts after the 2 minute mark in to the first round will proove to be irrelevant as Hughes will be too sweaty to secure a firm one.

I like them both. Maybe they just knock each other out at the same time like Apollo and Rocky in Rocky 2 lol.

Anderson silva said: “Hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself”…. Anderson doesnt even speak English but even he know Hughes is a dick.

Serra is a well rounded experienced warrior… with a lot of heart…I can c him beating Hughes

Has anyone heard anything about if Dana is trying to sign: Barnett, Rogerio, Arona, sokodjou, Yoshida, akoi, Gomi, Filho, Kang, alister Overeem, Gilbert “el nino”, Misaki, Nick Diaz, Kawajir, Ishida? If anyone has heard anything please let me know.

I would like to c old ass Sakuraba fight 1 more time in the UFC.

[quote comment=”116394″]Wanderlei Silva was beaten by a Dan Henderson who will be a 185 pound fighter after Rampage beats him. With no soccer kicks allowed in the UFC, Chuck takes this one.

I may be from NY and all but there is zero chance for Matt Serra to beat the greatest welterweight of all time. Matt Hughes is far superior in strength. Any submissions attempts after the 2 minute mark in to the first round will proove to be irrelevant as Hughes will be too sweaty to secure a firm one.[/quote]

Hughes is not far superior in strength! Serra will be wrkin his ass off getting stronger - hes gonna beat a now over rated hughes

I just did a bit research… Wandy did beat Rampage twice, both with KOs. Dan Henderson beat Wandy. So, Rampage vs. Dan Henderson should be an interesting match. I doubt if their past fights will affect the outcome of this match.

[quote comment=”116383″][quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]

Serra could KO Hughes though,if he did it to GSP he definitly can do it to Hughes.[/quote]

Anyone can pretty much knock out anyone in the octagon. I like Serra as a person over Hughes but I would lean towards Hughes in this match up.

Expect to see Hughes vs GSP #3

[quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]
This is a bad matchup for Hughes. Chris Lytle gave Hughes hell. Matt Hughes time is over. Serra will be underestimated again and will finish him.

Serra will fuck up Dana’s plans again. Gotta love it…

[quote comment=”116407″]I just did a bit research… Wandy did beat Rampage twice, both with KOs. Dan Henderson beat Wandy. So, Rampage vs. Dan Henderson should be an interesting match. I doubt if their past fights will affect the outcome of this match.[/quote]

Do some more homework while your at it. Wandy beat Hendo first. Hendo then won the rematch.

Also MMATH usually doesn’t add up. Anything can happen.
All you “overnighter’s” are killing me!

[quote comment=”116384″]Chuck is slippging with age and I think he will be overwhelmed by Wandi. One thing though, people hold his loss to Cro-Cop against him too much. It was open weight tourney and he was fighting a heavyweight. Hendo still smoked him clean though. Anyway I’m looking forward to seeing Silva in the Octagon again, I watched his fight with Belfort from 1998 a week ago and he was a quick victim of the fists of fury. If they fought now Belfort would be destroyed.[/quote]

…ok, look. Wandy is a stand up striker. Agreed? Good. Chuck is a stand up striker. Agreed? Good. Chucks strikes are all precise, hard, and fast. He will/would DOMINATE wandy.

[quote comment=”116424″][quote comment=”116384″]Chuck is slippging with age and I think he will be overwhelmed by Wandi. One thing though, people hold his loss to Cro-Cop against him too much. It was open weight tourney and he was fighting a heavyweight. Hendo still smoked him clean though. Anyway I’m looking forward to seeing Silva in the Octagon again, I watched his fight with Belfort from 1998 a week ago and he was a quick victim of the fists of fury. If they fought now Belfort would be destroyed.[/quote]

…ok, look. Wandy is a stand up striker. Agreed? Good. Chuck is a stand up striker. Agreed? Good. Chucks strikes are all precise, hard, and fast. He will/would DOMINATE wandy.[/quote]

Really? Wow thanks for telling me that I wasn’t aware. I thought Wandi was GnP and Chuck was pure BJJ.

The article is a slight bit inaccurate. Silva was KOd by Belfort, won a few fights outside the ufc, KOd Tony Petarra in the ufc, won a few in Pride, then lost in a title fight to Ortiz. So he was 1-2 in the ufc during that time

KOS is going to fuck danas plans up.

I suppose Wanderlei will face Tito Ortiz at one point too, in attempt to avenge his loss to him. But I’m not sure if that means anything to Silva.

Wanderlei Silva was unbeatable for years after that loss to Tito.

Both he and Tito are not the same fighters they were 7 years ago, but so what?

Today, Tito couldn’t even beat Rashad Evans. How in hell would he beat Wanderlei again?
And let’s see what Wanderlei has left…

[quote comment=”116394″]Wanderlei Silva was beaten by a Dan Henderson who will be a 185 pound fighter after Rampage beats him. With no soccer kicks allowed in the UFC, Chuck takes this one.

I may be from NY and all but there is zero chance for Matt Serra to beat the greatest welterweight of all time. Matt Hughes is far superior in strength. Any submissions attempts after the 2 minute mark in to the first round will proove to be irrelevant as Hughes will be too sweaty to secure a firm one.[/quote]

People really overestimate how much the Chute Box fighters rely on soccer kicks. The whole “no soccer kicks? He’ll lose! in fact, he has never thrown anything on the feet, and just magics the other fighter on the ground where he lands nothing but soccer kicks”. People said the same thing about Shogun fighting in the Pride ufc shows, and he destroyed both Randleman and Overeem. Being in the ufc won’t make a slight difference in Silva vs Chuck anyway, unless you think Silva will take him down (he couldn’t if he wanted to). That fight will play out 100% on the feet

As far as Serra goes, I don’t think he’ll be overwhelmed like a lot of people are saying. The same was said when another great BJJ fighter moved up to face him, and I think we all remember how that went (hint, Hughes lost). Strength helps, but it doesn’t mean a fighter will automatically win. I thought we all figured that out at ufc 1. I say Hughes still wins, due to his improved submission defense, and ability to keep top position. However, I would not be the least big surprised if Serra submits him.

[quote comment=”116412″][quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]
This is a bad matchup for Hughes. Chris Lytle gave Hughes hell. Matt Hughes time is over. Serra will be underestimated again and will finish him.

Serra will fuck up Dana’s plans again. Gotta love it…[/quote]

..I see Serra winning the same way BJ beat him the first time they met..Hughes is going to get caught with a sleg hammer..then Serra will have rear naked choke Tapout!!

before Wandy he must beat Meany

[quote comment=”116436″]
People really overestimate how much the Chute Box fighters rely on soccer kicks. The whole “no soccer kicks? He’ll lose! in fact, he has never thrown anything on the feet, and just magics the other fighter on the ground where he lands nothing but soccer kicks”. People said the same thing about Shogun fighting in the Pride ufc shows, and he destroyed both Randleman and Overeem. [/quote]

So true. I chalk that up to people who haven’t seen many Pride fights.

Couldn’t they pick two pictures of Wandy dishing out the beating instead of receiving (on right?). I’m guessing that is against Crocop on the right. Hey, can’t win them all.

Between Iceman and Silva, I’m stuck. I like them both and just hope neither guy gets seriously injured.

[quote post=”2895″]As far as Serra goes, I don’t think he’ll be overwhelmed like a lot of people are saying. The same was said when another great BJJ fighter moved up to face him, and I think we all remember how that went (hint, Hughes lost). Strength helps, but it doesn’t mean a fighter will automatically win. I thought we all figured that out at ufc 1. I say Hughes still wins, due to his improved submission defense, and ability to keep top position. However, I would not be the least big surprised if Serra submits him. [/quote]

hughes was losing badly to penn in the 1st and 2nd, and was nearly submitted.

serra might not give up much reach either, they’re both pretty short. serra has decent hands too.

this could be a long night for hughes. i hope serra via submission

[quote comment=”116412″][quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]
This is a bad matchup for Hughes. Chris Lytle gave Hughes hell. Matt Hughes time is over. Serra will be underestimated again and will finish him.

Serra will fuck up Dana’s plans again. Gotta love it…[/quote]
Chris Lytle gave Matt Hughes “hell”??? Did Lytle jump him in the parking lot after Hughes dominated him in the cage? Interesting, I did not know that. I only saw their fight where Hughes crushed Lytle out of contention.

[quote comment=”116365″]F*ck matt hughes…. as Anderson silva said: “Hughes is a dwarf who is full of himself”…. Anderson doesnt even speak English but even he know Hughes is a dick.
[/quote]
Ha! I’d like to see what Hughes said to provoke that because Anderson Silva has always been nothing but kind and courteous to all his opponents just before he brutally smashes their faces in.

Wonder if they will have Wandy fight Elvis! LOL

[quote comment=”116384″]Chuck is slippging with age and I think he will be overwhelmed by Wandi. One thing though, people hold his loss to Cro-Cop against him too much. It was open weight tourney and he was fighting a heavyweight. Hendo still smoked him clean though. Anyway I’m looking forward to seeing Silva in the Octagon again, I watched his fight with Belfort from 1998 a week ago and he was a quick victim of the fists of fury. If they fought now Belfort would be destroyed.[/quote]

Wand was in the hospital & diagnosed with Strep the night before the Hendo fight. I respect the hell out of Wand for fighting under that condition & I’m willing to forget the resulting poor performance in his title defence against Hendo. Anyone whose ever had Strep knows that it’s a feat in itself to even attempt to fight anyone, let alone a fighter of Hendo’s status. I dont care how hard you;ve trained or how much heart you have, when you have Strep, your body refuses to perform anywhere near it’s actual potential, let alone your peak potential.

As far as the Cro Cop loss, again, I commend Wand & any other lighter-weight fighter for stepping up to an open-weight tournament where they are immediately at a disadvantage.

When measuring Wand against any other fighter, I personally use all save the two examples above when weighing him against any opponent. Worst case scenario, it may possibly effect his mental game but certainly is no indication of his fighting ability.

Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose. He best hope he doesn’t have to face Chuck first - that would be an aweful and potentially career ending (re)debut. Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup. While I’ve always thought he was a tough dude (one of the very best), he’s finished. It’s inevitable…
To those who think Serra’s gonna take Hughes, are you f…ing nuts? Serra will be schooled in this one. Once Hughes get’s his belt back bring on Diego, GSP, Swick,or even Karo. Good times are coming!

Wanderlei has 3 ufc fights
2 losses and 1 win (against tony petarra)

[quote comment=”116463″]Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose. He best hope he doesn’t have to face Chuck first - that would be an aweful and potentially career ending (re)debut. Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup. While I’ve always thought he was a tough dude (one of the very best), he’s finished. It’s inevitable…
To those who think Serra’s gonna take Hughes, are you f…ing nuts? Serra will be schooled in this one. Once Hughes get’s his belt back bring on Diego, GSP, Swick,or even Karo. Good times are coming![/quote]

If you honestly think Silva would lose to Forrest or Bisbing, mma isn’t for you. There are plenty of other sports out there. Dare I suggest badmitten?

I’m going to take a shot in the dark here and guess you started watching the ufc sometime in 2005 or later, and that Griffin vs Bonnar is your favorite fight of all time. Am I close?

[quote comment=”116469″][quote comment=”116463″]Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose. He best hope he doesn’t have to face Chuck first - that would be an aweful and potentially career ending (re)debut. Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup. While I’ve always thought he was a tough dude (one of the very best), he’s finished. It’s inevitable…
To those who think Serra’s gonna take Hughes, are you f…ing nuts? Serra will be schooled in this one. Once Hughes get’s his belt back bring on Diego, GSP, Swick,or even Karo. Good times are coming![/quote]

If you honestly think Silva would lose to Forrest or Bisbing, mma isn’t for you. There are plenty of other sports out there. Dare I suggest badmitten?

I’m going to take a shot in the dark here and guess you started watching the ufc sometime in 2005 or later, and that Griffin vs Bonnar is your favorite fight of all time. Am I close?[/quote]

Wrong on all counts “expert”. You don’t like my views, too bad. I call things the way I see them. Sylva’s had an awesome career, but at this point I don’t see things going his way (when faced with a legitimate opponent). Please “enlighten” me with your wisdom…

[quote comment=”116467″]Wanderlei has 3 ufc fights
2 losses and 1 win (against tony petarra)[/quote]

Thanks for the correction.

[quote comment=”116463″]Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose. He best hope he doesn’t have to face Chuck first - that would be an aweful and potentially career ending (re)debut. Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup. While I’ve always thought he was a tough dude (one of the very best), he’s finished. It’s inevitable…
To those who think Serra’s gonna take Hughes, are you f…ing nuts? Serra will be schooled in this one. Once Hughes get’s his belt back bring on Diego, GSP, Swick,or even Karo. Good times are coming![/quote]

Wandi would destroy most of those fighters. He’s already knocked out Rampage 2 times. Bisping? Griffin? Are you kidding me? 2 Rd 1 KO’s there. Tito would be a walkover at this stage of Tito’s career. P.S. Griffin may have to head to Bodog anyway once Shogun takes him apart.

How is he finished? He lost an open weight match to a heavy weight premier striker, then lost a rematch to Henderson who is a long time top notch fighter who is no stranger to fighting at 200 pounds. Personally I think Chuck is closer to finished than Silva.

P.S. Griffin may have to head to Bodog anyway once Shogun takes him apart so he probably won’t get a shot at Wandi in any event.

I’d also like to add that the disrespect to Serra shows a profound ignorance of the game. He isn’t some washed up fighter who was nothing before tuf 4. He was a legitimate contender who just wasn’t quite at the top. Let’s analyze his 4 losses

1. Shonie Carter - He dominated this fight, then got caught and KOd at the very end
2. BJ Penn - If you doubt how good Serra is, watch this fight. It was a very close, competitive fight
3. Din Thomas - I honestly haven’t seen this fight in forever, but I remember it being a close. It was a split decision loss against a guy who was once considered elite, and is still considered a contender
4. Karo - Worst loss of his career. He stayed in it, and showed great heart. Hell, he dropped Karo at the start and did quite a bit of damage in the first. He got overwhelmed the rest of the fight, though

Those are his 4 losses. 2 close decisions, 1 fight he dominated start to near finish before getting caught, and another fight he held his own in at the start, then got handled. The only person you could say convincingly beat him is Karo, and Karo is a damn good fighter.

I’m not saying he will win, but it is not insane to think he will. The only better submission specialist Hughes has fought in his entire career is BJ Penn

This gives Liddell enough time from September to December to take on Silva. This fight will happen in December. I’m glad I held out on Sept. event because it’s going down New Years weekend. We already are guranteed Matt V. Matt. The Liddell/Silva fight is looking promising. Whats left? Couture/Fedor or Couture/?

Chuck is slipping with age. Wandi by knockout.

Serra will retain his belt over Hughes. Hughes will look for the take down at which point Serra will put on a jj clinic. Or hughes will try to stand up where he still doesnt have an advantage. Serra easily.

Yohnstoppable is correct WADZ. Youre way wrong.

I know there would be a weight class issue, but they should figure out a way to make this Brandon Vera’s second fight of the year. Vera is asking for two fights before the end of the year, right? Might as well make it a blockbuster. Vera vs. Silva would be awesome!

I do agree that Chuck being strictly a counterstriker might get an opening on Wandi but you have to remember that Chuck can not handle an aggressive fighter. Every time someone has really pressured him and go after him agressively, he has lost…
If Wandi comes out with an unagressive fight plan like he did against Hendo, it’s gonna be a easy night for Chuck.
People complain that Wandi is too wild and too agressive but thats the only style that works for him.
I see Wandi coming out swinging and getting the TKO win in the second round.
GO SILVA!!!!

[quote comment=”116470″][quote comment=”116469″][quote comment=”116463″]Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose.
Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup.
[/quote]
I’m going to take a shot in the dark here and guess you started watching the ufc sometime in 2005 or later, and that Griffin vs Bonnar is your favorite fight of all time. Am I close?[/quote]
Wrong on all counts “expert”. You don’t like my views, too bad. I call things the way I see them. Sylva’s had an awesome career, but at this point I don’t see things going his way (when faced with a legitimate opponent). Please “enlighten” me with your wisdom…[/quote]
Hey don’t shoot your WADZ on us!

That’s quite a list there starting out with Rampage then Henderson… but wait, Forest and Bisping jump in there at the end? Where’s the bouncer? No riff-raff in this club. Did you really just say Wanderlei Silva better not fight Bisping? Sure, maybe in another 5 years but I don’t think Bisping would be interested in taking that fight yet. Bisping just got punked in round #1 by Elvis for God’s sake. He is not a top ranked contender yet even in his own mind.

[quote comment=”116504″][quote comment=”116470″][quote comment=”116469″][quote comment=”116463″]Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose.
Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup.
[/quote]
I’m going to take a shot in the dark here and guess you started watching the ufc sometime in 2005 or later, and that Griffin vs Bonnar is your favorite fight of all time. Am I close?[/quote]
Wrong on all counts “expert”. You don’t like my views, too bad. I call things the way I see them. Sylva’s had an awesome career, but at this point I don’t see things going his way (when faced with a legitimate opponent). Please “enlighten” me with your wisdom…[/quote]
Hey don’t shoot your WADZ on us!

That’s quite a list there starting out with Rampage then Henderson… but wait, Forest and Bisping jump in there at the end? Where’s the bouncer? No riff-raff in this club. Did you really just say Wanderlei Silva better not fight Bisping? Sure, maybe in another 5 years but I don’t think Bisping would be interested in taking that fight yet. Bisping just got punked in round #1 by Elvis for God’s sake. He is not a top ranked contender yet even in his own mind.[/quote]

He got punked in round 1 by Elvis? I thought he took stood up for a little and then took Elvis down and beat the living crap out of him till the round was over. I need to study up on “punking”.

[quote comment=”116470″]Wrong on all counts “expert”. You don’t like my views, too bad. I call things the way I see them. Sylva’s had an awesome career, but at this point I don’t see things going his way (when faced with a legitimate opponent). Please “enlighten” me with your wisdom…[/quote]

What are you basing this on, though? It wasn’t long ago when he KOd Rampage twice, defeated Arona in a rematch, and destroyed Fujita (not to mention gave Hunt a hell of a fight at a HUGE weight disadvantage). But forget that, he lost 2 fights in a row against top 3 ranked fighters, so he sux now. Everyone is as good as their very last fight, of course, which is why you neglect to mention Rampage’s fights vs Shogun, Yoon Dong Sik, Lindland (gift decision), and Eastman. Those don’t matter, though, cause he beat Chuck again.

As far as Forrest and Bisbing, who have they beaten that even comes CLOSE to Silva? Forrest’s best win of his career is against Monson, and Bisbing haven’t even fought anyone that good. The best either of them have fought is Forrest against Tito, and he lost. Saying those guys would hand it to Silva makes it clear you are uninformed, and started watching mma after the tuf era.

Tito and Chuck I’ll give to you, though. I think Silva would beat Tito, but he has shown a weakness to solid wrestling skills (Arona, Henderson, and yes even vs Rampage). Chuck is a toss-up imo. Silva leaves himself open, and has a very aggressive style, so I wouldn’t be surprised if Chuck landed a nice counter and put him away.

[quote comment=”116379″]Seriously. I like both Serra and Hughes, but Hughes is gonna demolish Serra.[/quote]

How? Serra by tko

silva will knockout chuck, just like he kocked out rampage in both of thier fights.

[quote comment=”116487″]I know there would be a weight class issue, but they should figure out a way to make this Brandon Vera’s second fight of the year. Vera is asking for two fights before the end of the year, right? Might as well make it a blockbuster. Vera vs. Silva would be awesome![/quote]
Can Vera make light heavyweight? I’ve seen mention of it but nothing definite yet. That would be an awesome matchup.

[quote comment=”116505″][quote comment=”116504″][quote comment=”116470″][quote comment=”116469″][quote comment=”116463″]Unless Sylva’s given a light first fight, he’s gonna lose.
Sylva should look to avoid Rampage, Henderson, Lidell, Shogun, Tito, Forest, and Bisping until he’s had some kind of warmup.
[/quote]
close?[/quote]
Please “enlighten” me with your wisdom…[/quote]
Hey don’t shoot your WADZ on us!

That’s quite a list there starting out with Rampage then Henderson… but wait, Forest and Bisping jump in there at the end? Where’s the bouncer? No riff-raff in this club. Did you really just say Wanderlei Silva better not fight Bisping? Sure, maybe in another 5 years but I don’t think Bisping would be interested in taking that fight yet. Bisping just got punked in round #1 by Elvis for God’s sake. He is not a top ranked contender yet even in his own mind.[/quote]
He got punked in round 1 by Elvis? I thought he took stood up for a little and then took Elvis down and beat the living crap out of him till the round was over. I need to study up on “punking”.[/quote]
You’re right, not the entire first round. Elvis slapped him around early but Bisping came back and finished him off. Elvis is supposed to be more of a submission guy. He competes in that Abu Dhabi tournament which doesn’t allow striking. But if Elvis can slap Bisping around for a bit… then Silva could do quite a bit more.

Whoa, why are people picking on Serra? At least he never gives up in his fights and shows great heart through all of them. You guys are beginning to act like most of the UG.

Now on to Wandy. Imagine if Chuck lost to two PRIDE fighters, would that spell the end and retirement thereafter for the great Iceman?

Here’s a little MMAth for you:

Matt Serra defeated Ivan Menjivar who defeated Joe Lauzon who defeated Jens Pulver who defeated BJ Penn who defeated Matt Hughes.

So this is in the bag for Matt Serra right? haha

When I get bored at work I just look through fighters records. I stumbled upon Ivan Menjivar’s win over Joe Lauzon and had to jump on the opportunity to use some MMAth for you guys.

[quote comment=”116479″]I’d also like to add that the disrespect to Serra shows a profound ignorance of the game. He isn’t some washed up fighter who was nothing before tuf 4. He was a legitimate contender who just wasn’t quite at the top. Let’s analyze his 4 losses

1. Shonie Carter - He dominated this fight, then got caught and KOd at the very end
2. BJ Penn - If you doubt how good Serra is, watch this fight. It was a very close, competitive fight
3. Din Thomas - I honestly haven’t seen this fight in forever, but I remember it being a close. It was a split decision loss against a guy who was once considered elite, and is still considered a contender
4. Karo - Worst loss of his career. He stayed in it, and showed great heart. Hell, he dropped Karo at the start and did quite a bit of damage in the first. He got overwhelmed the rest of the fight, though

Those are his 4 losses. 2 close decisions, 1 fight he dominated start to near finish before getting caught, and another fight he held his own in at the start, then got handled. The only person you could say convincingly beat him is Karo, and Karo is a damn good fighter.

I’m not saying he will win, but it is not insane to think he will. The only better submission specialist Hughes has fought in his entire career is BJ Penn[/quote]

Serra is a tough, experienced fighter wit a lot of heart, and solid technique… Shit he was doing great against Karo until he gassed. With better cardio that fight would have been totally different….and Im a huge Karo fan….Matt hughes is in trouble!

[quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]

The only reason I would want Serra to win is that, if he loses, he will likely fall out of the mix entirely and GSP will never get to avenge his loss. Even if GSP regains the title, the fact that he will not get to crush the NY wart is very unsatisfying.

[quote comment=”116412″][quote comment=”116375″]hughes will overwhelm an overrated Serra[/quote]
This is a bad matchup for Hughes. Chris Lytle gave Hughes hell. Matt Hughes time is over. Serra will be underestimated again and will finish him.

Serra will fuck up Dana’s plans again. Gotta love it…[/quote]

Hughes dominated Lytle for 15 minutes. Serra beat Lytle via SPLIT-decision in the TUF 4 finale. I think you’ve confused which fighter Lytle gave hell to.

I see a lot of people not giving credit to Hughes ground game. He’s not the type of guy you can just sneak a triangle or armbar onto while he’s on top. He’s got great control, awareness, and oft-overlooked technique. He’s probably at a black belt level (at least for sub-defense, if not overall), and he’s got enough tools on offense to finish 80% of his fights. Physically he’s as strong as they come at 170.

By contrast, Serra has finished just 2 of his last 9 fights in the UFC, the most recent by TKO. His only submission win came against Kelly Dulante. He hasn’t shown that he’s got an amazing offensive submission game in the least. If he couldn’t finish those other 7 guys with it, he’s not going to finish Matt freaking Hughes with it.

Serra’s in trouble, I figure Hughes wins this > 80% of the time. Serra’s only chance is to get a TKO, and I don’t think Hughes isn’t going to mess around and stand with him. He’s going to take him down and completely dominate him.

[quote comment=”116535″]Now on to Wandy. Imagine if Chuck lost to two PRIDE fighters, would that spell the end and retirement thereafter for the great Iceman?[/quote]

What’s a PRIDE fighter, and what are they doing in the UFC?

I really don’t think that Wandy should fight Chuck in his first fight back in the UFC. Yes, he has fought in the UFC before, but the key is that he is coming off of 2 devastating losses. I think he needs to have a fight vs a bum so he can re-gain his confidence. But there is no way that Dana would allow this, evidence by him rushing Rampage into the title shot, Rampage said he wanted at least 2 fights before fighting Chuck - and look what happened, Dana, HAHAHA.

They should throw Wandi in there with a Jason Lambert or something. Let him beat the life outta someone if front of all the newbie UFC fans who still think his first name, Wanderlei, is pernounced with a ‘W’ = Wand-er-ly

[quote comment=”116538″]Here’s a little MMAth for you:

Matt Serra defeated Ivan Menjivar who defeated Joe Lauzon who defeated Jens Pulver who defeated BJ Penn who defeated Matt Hughes.

So this is in the bag for Matt Serra right? haha

When I get bored at work I just look through fighters records. I stumbled upon Ivan Menjivar’s win over Joe Lauzon and had to jump on the opportunity to use some MMAth for you guys.[/quote]

Lindland > Baroni > Chonan > Anderson Silva > Rich Franklin > Tanner > Terrell > Lindland. Thus, we know Lindland would defeat Lindland in a fight, which he did at ufc 43 by KOing himself with a slam

He got punked in round 1 by Elvis? I thought he took stood up for a little and then took Elvis down and beat the living crap out of him till the round was over. I need to study up on “punking”.[/quote]
You’re right, not the entire first round. Elvis slapped him around early but Bisping came back and finished him off. Elvis is supposed to be more of a submission guy. He competes in that Abu Dhabi tournament which doesn’t allow striking. But if Elvis can slap Bisping around for a bit… then Silva could do quite a bit more.[/quote]

Elvis never slapped Bisping around…watch the fight again. He caught Bisping with a solid knee, but was unable to capitalize because he had already taken such a crazy beating. Bisping would eat Sylva for lunch - you’ll see!

[quote comment=”116574″]Elvis never slapped Bisping around…watch the fight again. He caught Bisping with a solid knee, but was unable to capitalize because he had already taken such a crazy beating. Bisping would eat Sylva for lunch - you’ll see![/quote]

Is he moving up to heavyweight to fight Sylvia now?

[quote post=”2895″]Bisping would eat Sylva for lunch - you’ll see! [/quote]

Unfortunately we will never see, because Babied Bisping is still fighting the like of Matt Hammill in his 3rd fight, when Forrest was fighting Tito Ortiz in his 3rd fights.

Honestly, Bisping has a better chance of getting matched up with Mark “Skywalker” Hamill before Wanerlei Silva. Dana would never allow such a match. He wants to preserve Bisping undefeated recored by feeding him complete bums that’s style fits right into his, ala Chuck’s title run, but this time he doesn’t have to call the opponents “#1 contenders”. I bet Bisping’s next fight takes place in the UK, again, and is against someone making their UFC debut.

[quote comment=”116568″]They should throw Wandi in there with a Jason Lambert or something. Let him beat the life outta someone if front of all the newbie UFC fans who still think his first name, Wanderlei, is pernounced with a ‘W’ = Wand-er-ly[/quote]

I say we put him up against Bisbing and let Wadz have his wish. After he tags him, which Ross Pointon, Josh Haynes, and Elvis Sinosec were able to do, it will be a short night as he can actually finish. I don’t see the ufc ever allowing that to happen though

I agree Yohnstoppable, the more and more I hear about Bisping, the more I want to see him stuck in Wandy’s clinch. WADZ would be able to hear him crying from his house.

* muay thai clinch